Anyone who knows me knows the best part of my "job" is the chance to build a true partnership with extraordinary founders and help them build companies.

I finally got to join Ronen Lavi on Guy Katsovich's podcast and share what we learned on the shared path of Ronen, Shay, and us in Navina's earliest days.

Our investment often arrives at the earliest stage of a company, before there is a product. In this episode Ronen and I tried to share our experience from Navina's ideation process, and I hope it gives value to founders planning to start a company, with lessons they can apply in their own ideation.

When we recorded the episode two months earlier, we had no idea what a dramatic week it would be published in. It seems that in stormy days, escapism can hide precisely in conversations about building companies, creating value for the world, and bringing innovation into industries. At the end of the day, optimism has to win.